Turning Fear Into Action: Live Coaching Call | Grow With Kepo Ep. 16

In this raw, transformative episode of Grow With Kepo, we take a powerful detour, inviting listener and multi-passionate creative Olaora into a real-time coaching session. She’s a singer, songwriter, marketing strategist, and mom with a dream to build the “Sony of Africa.” But self-doubt, inconsistent action, and fear of failure keep getting in the way.

This is more than a session, it’s a mirror for anyone stuck at the intersection of ambition and alignment. Through deeply personal truths, mindset breakthroughs, and tactical next steps, Olaora peels back the layers of resistance we all carry. You’ll walk away challenged, inspired, and ready to get out of your own way.

Welcome to the Grow With Kepo podcast, where transformation begins with clarity.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Big dreams require aligned belief, not just strategy
• Stop comparing your chapter 1 to someone else’s chapter 42
• Execution unlocks clarity, thinking isn’t enough
• Perfectionism hides behind busy work and delays growth
• Ideas leave when not executed, take bold action now
• Your next chapter won’t start by itself, you have to choose it
• Reaching out opens doors, don’t reject yourself first
• Intentional use of 10-minute windows builds consistency
• Stop over-indexing on ideal conditions, start where you are
• Your belief has to lead your behavior, not the other way around

BEST MOMENTS

00:00:04. “My goal ideally is to own and run a multi-media company. I want Africa to have its own Sony Music.”
00:01:14. “Why not bring a client on and actually have a one-on-one coaching session live?”
00:04:12. “My resume is very lean, not lean and mean, just lean.”
00:05:53. “Even with social media, I wasn’t even putting myself out there enough.”
00:10:13. “How would you like to see it all turn out a year from now and then five years from now?”
00:15:09. “What’s this successful version of you asking you to do in this moment?”
00:17:48. “What could happen in a year if you were actually intentional?”
00:21:15. “I don’t think I do. I have waves... and then it dips.”
00:32:24. “What about getting so f*cking delusional that you know it’s going to happen?”
00:46:00. “Make the main things the main things. Done is better than perfect.”

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My goal ideally is to own and run a multi-media company. I want Africa to have its own Sony Music, for example, or its own Sony Pictures. That's the conglomerate of entertainment. Basically. And that's what I want to do and then be able to invest in multiple other businesses. I could go either route. I'm just getting really charged just listening to your dreams. This is a big dream. Why can't those two things come together? They can. I just need to figure out how. Here is something you need to hear. You're not lazy. You're just misaligned. I'm careful. I help high performers get unstuck by taking bold, aligned action. And this is grow with Keppel, where we speak with influential trailblazers who've made their mark and found the clarity that changed their lives. This is where we get clear, realign, and move toward a life that actually feels like yours. Welcome to the show. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. This today's episode is a very different one. I am taking a twist in the road because I like to keep you on your toes. Okay? And today I thought. You know what? Why not bring a client on? And actually have a one on one coaching session live? And you can actually tap into her breakthroughs. You can also relate with a lot of the things that she's probably going to ask. And also you get on blogs as well because we're all in this together. Well, we all pretty much want similar things in life, right? And hearing somebody else go through their own journey is always so uplifting. And I'm so excited about this. You all because this is where I shine. And this is where people that I work with get to shine. I get to get their breakthroughs as well. So without further ado, let's get right into it. Hello. Welcome to the show, Laura. How are you doing today? Very well. Kacper, thank you for having me. I'm so honored to have you here. I'm so happy and I want to say something. I know I said this to you offline, but I just want to commend you on what you are doing today. Because not a lot of people have the courage to just raise your hand and say, hey, I need help in this area and I want to talk to someone. A lot of times people get in their heads and their ego gets in the way and they're like, what's that? I don't need coaching. I already know what to do. Well, guess what? If we all knew what to do, we would all be billionaires by now, right? Right. But, Yeah, I just I think it's really awesome. I see you, I see you fighting for what you want, and I'm so excited for you and this session. Thank you. Awesome. And happy to be here. Let's do this. Okay. All right, well, for the benefit of the listeners and the watchers, tell us what you do. What you love to do. What do I do and what do I love to do? I, I do it. If anything's. No, not not no. Really, I, I, I make music, I enjoy marketing, I enjoy business. I got my, I did my undergraduate in, in the United States in my, in business management. And then I recently got a certificate in marketing here in Canada. I just moved to Canada like two years ago. At some point I moved back home to kind of do the music thing, but it a lot of things I would probably talk about stopped that. So yeah, I, I, I make music, I write songs, I sing if, if that's not already clear. And I enjoy thinking up marketing strategy, like creating strategy. I like thinking up, okay, how can we make this work for this business? And I enjoy making things move I don't like I don't like hearing all this kind of work. I feel like there's always a way. So, currently been looking for work. In marketing, I my ideal would be to find something in the music industry. But, you know, whatever it's been. Well, whatever. What? I don't know, I think it's very competitive. And I don't have that much work experience. My my resume is very lean, not lean and mean. Just lean. Mean. So when you say that the market is competitive and your resume is lean, okay, those are facts, but have you actually done anything towards finding a job? Or are these stories that you're just telling yourself? You just assume that? Or because of that you can? I have been searching. I think I've been searching. I do think that I could go harder, on the job search. Right. But I really do believe that my resume is what is not cutting it. And I do believe that. And I believe that I don't know the right people as well that could I, you know, because my first job at a record company back in Nigeria, it was through a friend and I did the interview, blah, blah, blah. I got the job, didn't didn't really go very well towards the end there. Enough to say that, okay, I made an impact and and then after that I was like, okay. I kept going back and forth between doing my own thing, and, and finding a job because all I ever heard was, you know, you need to be. It needs to be. You need to find a stable thing. Right? So even though I wanted to do music and I wanted to use music as a stepping stone for the other things in my life that I am passionate about, I could never really focus on that because I felt like I was wasting my time knowing that the music industry is very, is very unstable in terms of, you know, and then I wasn't even putting myself out there, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm a homebody. So it's like, you can't really do that. And so even even with social media, I wasn't even putting myself out there. Enough. And there were very many opportunities. I don't know if you ended up reading my question in that stuff I did. Yeah. So I was like, there were people that I could have followed up with that may have been able to help me out, but I never did. I don't think that I'm someone who spent too much time thinking about why I'm not doing what I should be doing than just doing the thing, so I would think about all well is because I didn't have, guidance growing up. Right? And so a lot of times I knew why, I know what I want to do, but it's hard sticking to it for because sometimes I'm like, you're wasting your time. This is an unstable, this is a very stable industry for me. Why are you wasting your time on here? And so that way, I'm hearing a lot of things. I'm you? Yeah. It's crazy. Let me tell you what I'm hearing. It's crazy. It's. It's the same thread that is actually following you that you're using to. So whatever may be the fabric of your life right now. And what I'm hearing from you is, oh, I want to do this, but I already believe that it's not going to happen. So I just do a little bit and then I go back into my shell again. And that's exactly what you're doing right now. You literally just came up with all the reasons why you cannot land a job in marketing or in music, or maybe something. They will merge both together. So when you don't have the conviction and the confidence that this thing is going to happen for you, how do you think you approach that? How have you been approaching your job search? How have you been approaching, you know, stepping out into the music industry, putting yourself out there on social media? How have you been approaching that this year? So far? I've been. So like I said, I just finished the marketing certificate, so it was like, okay, there's something to put in there. I, I tend to have ideas about, okay, I could attach a proposal to this thing, like attach a pitch deck, black my find an excuse in my mind. But for the music and social media and my own thing, I've tried. I've actually started doing TikToks. I, I deactivated my Instagram, but I was like, okay, you know, no one really knows me on TikTok. And I turned off you a history and all the things I know could potentially stop me. And I've been doing the TikTok. I find that it's easier to do creative tasks than to do, the job search and said, I've applied to some jobs at least. I've gotten many rejections, so I know that I've been applying. I saw a job recently at UMG, and I took my time to to do it. Although I was, I was nervous. I was like, okay, if I waste time, what if, what if? Then it closes up, right? It was like I found it five days after it was posted, and then I sent it in on the seventh day and right after it was posted. So I was like, I felt like I could have done more to boost my resume, but I didn't want to waste time. I didn't want to give myself time to procrastinate anymore. And then the the position ends up closing up. But like for the creative tasks, I haven't dropped any songs this year, right? I was like, okay, let me build my following on social media. And then, you know, execute on that one, right? Do the lowest hanging fruit. Right? Okay. This is what you can do towards this is the lowest hanging fruit that you can do towards your goals. Do that. Right. And again I've seen some traction there. I've been consistent now for about a month or until like about three months I've gone to about 1003, eight followers. Now, I think I post regularly now when I was I just graduated, in June. So up until so since then I've been more consistent. While I was in school, it wasn't. I was able to be consistent, but I was still posting like regularly and I saw I can see that working for me. But I'm definitely I definitely have room to grow in terms of putting more singing videos out there. Right. How would you like all of this to turn out? Because there are two angles here. There is the market in Korea, right? And there is the music. Right. How would you like to see it all turn out? That's the last time box. It's how would you like to see this turn out a year from now and then five years from now? Okay. So this is I'm just going to explain to, to the way you did if the marketing thing would work out, I would hope that I did a good job that, let me fund the others. The content creation is much easier, right? Right now I'm even out of equipment. Like I only have certain things. I need a new mike, so stuff like that. So if I got a job in marketing or fund certain things, I'd probably be able to get a team around the content creation. Just a tiny team, not nothing really serious or be able to pay for certain tools or whatever or. But if I do the music being, I'm hoping that, you know, I I'm able to be stable enough that then I grow into the businesses that I want to do in the industry. I make connections, I'm able to, really become an entrepreneur in the music business that I want to do that I that I'm interested in too, as well, you know what I mean? So I'm just hoping that is for the music part. I'm like, okay, grow your following, start getting deals, start getting the streaming money coming in, start getting songwriting. I've been paid before to, to, write for people before. So I know that it's possible. I know that there's platforms like, sound better, that you know where you can put your work and you get hired there, you die or whatever you could possibly get signed. And even if you don't get signed, I'm not. I'm looking to I'm very fine being an independent artist, but going to the point that the streaming money is coming on a consistent basis, and I'm able to then invest into the things that into the other things, and even hopefully that would even open doors still to work in the music business or whatever. But my goal ideally is to and run a multi-media, company. I want Africa to have its own Sony Music, for example, or its own Sony Pictures. That's, that's, that's a conglomerate of and of the music of entertainment, basically. And that's really what I want to do and then be able to invest in multiple other businesses. I could go either route. I just that is awesome. That is amazing. I love that, and I'm just getting really charged, you know, just listening to your dreams. This are big dreams. And I have a question for you, Laura. What why can't those two things come together? They can. I just need to figure out how. I just need to know the how. You already know how what I'm hearing from you is. And even in your questionnaire, you said, oh, I could go this route. The music could fund this. You know, once I start getting brand deals or I could get a marketing job, you know, specifically the kind of marketing that I like, blah, blah. And that could fund, you know, building up my music stuff. My question to you is, why do they need to be marketing all those dots? Why not go? I don't know, I mean, I've been I've been trying to attack both, but I do think I could go harder. So let me tell you. Let's go back to the beginning again. This what I've been trying to is what is limiting you. Because on both ends, you still don't believe. You don't. You don't believe that it can actually happen on both ends. What I'm hearing from you is your dream is massive and is awesome, and I honestly commend you for that. For some reason, when it comes to the step by step and all of that, the middle part, the missing middle is almost like you don't trust it. And it sounds to me that you want to know which one is going to work out better for you first, before you finally take the step, am I right, am I right? You're right. Yeah. And then from there, from that kind of thinking, when whatever effort you put into it is not going to be your absolute best because you're not you don't have that conviction yet. But if you had the certainty and the conviction, the confidence that I know if I do this and this and this, this is going to happen for me, in fact, both things can happen for me at the same time. The the way I'm going to approach the things that you have to do is going to completely change. So let me ask you a question. I want you to imagine your most successful self right now, right? In fact, if you want, I want you to actually close your eyes and take a deep breath. Inhale, exhale. And I want you to actually think about this. Successful. Alright. Who is who is running a multi media conglomerate like Sony, the Sony of Africa. Right. And I want you to really, really think about the kinds of decisions that she makes and how she shows up. And I want you to tell me now, what's this successful version of you is asking you to do in this moment? You can open your eyes. I feel like she's telling me to be intentional about my time. You know, you just have to be intentional about your time. And even today, I noticed that when I was cooking, I was sneaking time in between to edit some videos. And it's like, well, you could be doing this. You could actually just be doing this, this, the little steps, this, the little things, you know, just be intentional with the time. Even if it's two minutes, even if it's ten minutes, I keep waiting to have one hour to focus on it. Meanwhile, I know I have ADHD to an extent, so it's like, I don't know if I can swear on this if I like, you know, I don't even have any refill. It's like it's, take the ten minutes. Take the ten minutes. If it's ten minutes of focused time, it goes a long way and then keep finding that time. And ten minutes is one hour at the end of the day. And I feel like that's what she's telling me. Just be intentional with your time. Don't you come constantly. It's now or never and you have to. You have to just take that time. And when you're intentional, what are you doing with the time? The things that I have to do with that make sense? No. Why are you doing those things that you have to do? Why? Why now? Why is it urgent? Because, like, I'll sleep with these. With all the things I have with, with these things. And and I mean, I don't have a choice. I don't want I don't have a choice. I'm for. Unfortunately, life has brought me to the point where I don't have a choice. I'm literally at this sink or something and just, you know what I mean? Yeah, but there is something else there, right? It because you you already you're building your social media following. You've done this kind of job before in Nigeria. It's not a you don't know. It's not like you don't know what to do to actually make it bigger. Even you, you told me in your questionnaire that there is someone that you could have contacted right. So it's not like you don't know what it's like. You don't even know who to contact. But there's a reason why you, you know, that you need to do these things. Why is that? I think that's why I'm here. I don't have anything else. I just think that's why I'm here. When I think about all the people is going to happen, when you take all those steps, when you are intentional about your time and you do all of those things, what is going to happen in a year from now? What could happen, the results for just me or the results in general like that, but matter to me, matter to you based on what you want, based on the two paths we talked about, based on them coming together based on your big dream and you actually inching towards that, what would that mean for you if you were actually intentional? I actually did all these things. I would have a stable income on both ends, even as as artists. I think that I would probably get to write for, for more established artists. I think that I would be starting off my business or even investing in things that are on ground. I think I would be meeting people who want to also do great things, because sometimes I think it's, you know, collaboration is key. I don't I'm not trying to do everything myself. I think there are a lot of people who are probably doing the things that I want to do. So it's like, okay, I would I would have leverage to to be part of this thing and be doing something meaningful. And I would finally not feel like I am wasting my time and wasting all the things that God has given me, right? All these gifts or these talents or these godly passions. For lack of a better term, I think that when it comes to music, I see it as, an economic, economic driver, especially for Africa. So I see it as it literally bringing people out of poverty because and really setting up an industry, most times what we see now is, is the form of these other companies. They're, you know, they, they, they're, they're big. So they, they own us for now, you know what I mean. And so and least, at least, at least we have something that we have something that's ours. You know, in Africa we're now we're we're growing and and it's just sad. Can you feel your heart as you see that? I want you to write write it down. You may have written these things down, but those are your reasons why. That is why you are. You're going to be intentional about your time. That is why, rather than obsessing on whether which path is going to work, I don't know. I don't know. You are just going to set up projects, the music project and the what you call it the marketing job project, and you're just going to do all the steps that you know, because, you know, you said it right, that you know that if you are intentional about your time and you do all these things, all these steps that you know to do, you are going to have a stable income, you're going to be able to invest more. You're going to be able to do more things on the music end of things. You, you and then and then the next thing you start talking about the lives that are attached to it. So now let's come let's bring this conversation back again to where this conversation started from. Elora, do you believe do you have the certainty and the conviction that you can actually have this successful music career and have this marketing? Okay, at this moment, am I supposed to be honest or should I scale it? Yes. I don't think I do. I think that I have waves, I think I go through with these moments when I'm like, yeah, yeah, I do that. And I feel that conviction and I'm like, oh yeah. And after a minute or two, it's like a no. So tell me what's going on when that dips for you? Most times I start to compare myself to other people. I think there's moments when I start to compare myself to, oh, I start to look at my reality. I'm like, girl, look at your count, girl. You ain't got this girl. You ain't got that. You know what I mean? I think that those are those two things or, the negative self-talk that I've been doing for years. Just just get that. Just get it on it's stage, you know, like create want. And sometimes I can be a perfectionist. So I'm singing and I can hear when my voice broke. Right. And then I, You ready? Hey, can I be real with you? Your next chapter isn't going to start itself. If you're in a job that drains you and you're tired of talking yourself out of your big ideas, it's time to move in. Raise your standards. My free 21 day Challenge. I'll coach you step by step to get through fear, make clear decisions, and start building the work and life you actually want. Click the link in the description to join the next round of up on the week list today. All right, now back to the conversation. So fear and negativity are running your show right now. And sometimes because I know that I've not been consistent. Right. So if I'm doing my vocal practice. What would the successful version of you say to you now instead of well what was the opposite of what you might say instead of all this. Oh, look at your bank account, bird. Because it sounds to me, before you answer that question, this is what I'm hearing from you. Not only are you comparing yourself with other people, which we all know is a thief of joy and confidence, so your idea of a double whammy, you're also comparing you. Yo, this is crazy. You're you're comparing your own chapter zero to your own chapter 42. We just talked about what could happen for you in a year, what could happen for you in five years, and you start talking about the lives that are attached to this thing. But then when you get in your head, you are looking at today. And if you look at today, if we all look at our today, we will not do anything. We'll just be like, okay, what's the point? Let's just all faff about right. But that is why I said, write those things down, because that is you. Sometimes you might need to revisit that thing over and over again until it becomes your own conviction. And what is happening now is you are looking at two things. You're looking at your current situation, right? And you're also looking at a future situation as if it is in the present. Yeah. And the only thing you need to be looking at is literally the first thing that your successful self told you to do, which is just be intentional about your time. Literally be present, stay focused, and just stay focused on the process. That is all. But which one is it going to be? Right? Because at the end of the day, it's up to you. It's up to you. It's up to you. What you want to run your show when you continue to focus on, oh, this is the current situation, then you don't end up doing anything to actually change the current situation, which is mind blowing. Right? But then when you focus on just the process, eventually it will get you there. Right? And sometimes what happens to us is that we are on. We are always limiting what we can do in a day, in a week, in a year, and under estimating what can be done in five years. So yeah, your mind is telling you, oh, look at all that. Like look at your bank accounts. Of course it's not going to happen. Yeah. Well right now it's not. But you want to tell me that if you do all of those things that you know to do, that your bank accounts won't change to stay the same. Okay. So here is something, you know, something that I do. And here is something that I tell all our clients to do as well. It's time for you to actually change the stuff that you believe about yourself and the stuff that you say to yourself, right? Because like you said, for two minutes, you're like, oh yeah, I can do this. And then all of a sudden it dips. And when it dips, everything else dips and you don't get anything done. I am no longer intentional about your time. And then you lose track and you're like, oh, the markets. Is this, the my resume is that I know you don't end up doing anything to even help the resume. It's to begin with. Right? And it all starts from that thing that is running your show. All those beliefs. So here's what you can do. Number one, I want you to this is this is recorded. Lucky for you. But what I like to do with my clients during session is to take notes. I don't take notes for you. You take your own notes. For example, you told me, I want you to write down the things that you say happened to you. When your emotion dips, right? You said you compare yourself with other people. You said that you look at your current situation. Right. And there's another thing you said, I don't remember now, but the if you look at the fact that I've not been consistent, like the the exactly, then you beat yourself up for not being consistent. So let me ask you this. If you could do 2 to 3 positive things to actually boost your confidence and to keep your self-talk positive and to continue to be consistent, what are those 2 to 3 things that you start doing? I think I've been doing one of them already, which is the TikToks that has really helped me. I'm just showing my proving to myself that can be consistent. I have something that is a big fear of like putting myself out there for people to see judge, like, comment saying, you know, that's really a big thing. But I would say that makes sense with the content. Like if I was to put more of the singing videos out there would would probably be best, because I think what I'm doing now is, is the lowest of the lowest type of content that I need. I don't know what I would do that I need to do to boost my confidence that moment. Well, I think you already said it right. First of all, you're already doing something to prove that you can be consistent as something right? You talked about your marketing job that could feel something. You talked about someone that you know that you could contact. Right? What would what what what would happen in a world where you actually did those things, where you actually went after that marketing job as if I'm going to get this thing. Or you actually contacted the person because you you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. And right now you are turning down offers that you don't have. But I remember I told you that I had reached out there and she was like, yeah, this is for real. Things like, I'm serious. And you reached out to her when like 20 this was 29, 18. It's okay. So how would you know what she was say to you if you don't reach out to her again? So what are you going to start doing? What are 2 to 3 things that you can start doing? I one of the ideas I had had to initially, was that I would be posting to LinkedIn more so I tend to have ideas like, ideas or content written content ideas. So I wanted to do more of that and then. Okay, write that down. Yeah, I know I did already. It's crazy. Did we know the strategies I have done is the implementation that is when we execute. Okay. I'll talk about that in last few minutes of the call. But write it down. Still just because you've written something down once. And that's the thing our ego, man, it just gets in the way. So I go I wrote it down already. No, write it down again. Write out again. Because obviously when you write down the first time you did not click. So write it down. No. Right. I know you're making that commitment, right. Maybe when you first wrote it down you are not you know, you are not on this journey with a coach with me and now is different. You're on a journey with me now, so write it down then. What else? I'll reach out to the people that I've been procrastinating. When are you going to reach out to them? Oh, Lord Jesus. I'm reaching out to them this week. Okay. Where was the hesitation there? I don't know, I think I don't enjoy, like, asking you for help. And I think that's the fear of I would be aired, right. There would be a rejection. Would that this would be aired. No, no, no, that I will be aired like the ghost. I would just not respond or they would just be like, nope. Oh, wow. So what if they don't respond right now? What's going to happen if they don't respond? I think I move on with my life and find the next person. So you find the next person, right? But and then at the same time, how would you know if they will respond if you don't even reach out to them? Yeah. This right here is a common problem. Alright? Do not. You're not alone in this, right? This is something that a lot of us do or have done before. We think in our heads like, oh, what if they rejects me? What if the process is painful? What if I feel? What if you feel? What if they don't respond? What if they ghost you completely or air you like you said as a new oh my gosh, I need to stay current. I've been in my own shell and I will grow with Papa shell. No, I, yeah, well, what would happen, right? What's the worst that can happen? You will still be alive, and then there will be more people for you to contact. But here you are fixated on. Was this one person or this one of you people going to see when maybe after reaching out to them, you have like 511 more people to reach out to, but you're just stuck on? But what if this one's for work? And then what if not? So what? We all, we we tend to index on negative stuff because our brains, you know, just like to protect us, you know, it's like, okay, let's just think of worst case scenario, worst case scenario. But what about best case scenario? What about bean? What about getting so fucking delusional about about life? Like, you know what, this is going to happen for me one way or another. You know what I mean? Like this. Doors are going to break down for me because I will keep knocking until they break down for me, until you have until you move with that kind of energy, you are always going to approach things like, oh, well, I don't know what I always say. What would you believe will? So okay, let's say alright, you email them and they don't respond to you. When you've put your food in the microwave for two minutes, it will come out warm right? Good. Will your milk expire in the fridge? No. Like within your partial down the apartment? No. Literally nothing happens. The only thing that would happen is okay, you feel that rejection. That's okay. You're human, I feel it. But then you feel you to go for that because. You don't even know how many doors you need to knock on yet, because you have not even started. So why not just start all the time that you've been thinking? What if I. What if they don't respond? Do you know how many other people you might have reached out to? And you know how we say clarity comes with execution? You might start reaching out to people, and then from there you start thinking about, oh, I could do this, I could do that, I could do this. And then all of a sudden, that whole being intentional with your time takes on a whole new meaning, because then you have all this other ideas, like you, you are finding it hard to keep up with yourself, make, you know, these ideas are just coming. But the only when you execute ideas do not come to people who don't execute. I have a theory that ideas that they are living beings. No I'm serious. They will come to you and say, can we been chilling with Alara? She's not. She's not giving us any attention. Let's go somewhere else I love so deeply. Oh, you just go online. They. How come this person is doing that thing that I had the idea for? Oh, well, yeah, because the idea left you with someone went somewhere. So someone else and person actually executed on it. So what are the ideas? You said you you have a lot of ideas are swimming around your head. Reach out to that person from 2018. It's fine. It's okay. Walk the Hall of shame. Say, you know what? I'm sorry. It took me several years to get back to you. Better late than never. Put some humor into it and just. Just go with it, man. What do you have to lose? Literally. I'm actually asking you nothing at this point. Okay, so it sounds like reaching out to a couple of people is actually a big, bold step for you to take, right? Can you tell me how you think you might feel when you do that? I feel nervous, I think even now I'm thinking, okay, has the message. What am I going to say in the message? And that alone is driving me crazy. I think one of the things that I don't, I don't like to seem on serious to people, this thing that just happened now is driving me crazy, because it's like I got a whole email that I close everything, but what's up? Desktop is like, let me put you to shame and make it happen. Okay? Are you human? Yeah. Okay. I that's straight lines in nature. You know there know. So why do you expect your life to be a straight line? Who cares if the phone just rang? It's a podcast. Whoever doesn't like it, they can tune to the next podcast vibe. Going like, who cares? You know what I mean? That's right. There is what is probably stopping you. So in this coming week, how are you going to show up differently? I'm going to have one. So I'm going to be intentional about my time. I need to do I need to know that I've decided that I want to go both ways. Right? I want to kill two birds with one stone. I I've been going back and forth for years saying that, oh, is it this one? Is it that one? But I know that I want to do both simultaneously. And now I'm at that time where I, I can actually have the time to do both. Right. To attack both. And so I'm going to create all the action points that I need to free both, like, like you said, dividing them up into projects, which again, I've started some of those things. I literally have a Trello where I divided up my life. Like there's my one with my stage name, one with, say, on the business person, one with, alright, the issue on the, you know, human. And then all our other business person, the marketing guru or whatever. So I want to go back there and take those things seriously, refine them where they need to be refined. And, begin executing. Okay. Let's talk about the execution. Yeah. Because you said that you have everything written down. You mentioned it earlier. You're like, okay, I know what to do. All right. Let's talk about the execution. You said in your questionnaire that right now you feel like the only time you can actually work, do all of these things is at night. But at the same time, you want you to get up at 5 a.m.. So can you do that without losing your sleep? So can we go back to why you believe that that time of the day is the only time that you have? Like I said, my son is a big part of why that is. Hopefully you'll be starting school soon. So that would kind of. I'd probably get the daytime back and start to kind of put him on a structured thing, because while he's with me during the day, I want to keep him engaged. I can't just put him in front of the screen. I want to oh, you know, even if it's reading, even if it's playing, I'm doing that with him. And I'm cooking, you know, cleaning or something. So I, I do think that I could be more organized and find little pockets or what, like I said, while I'm cooking, but things like things like singing, right? If I want to post a singing video, he's going to be like that. And it's like, you know, it probably take time, but then at night it you know, you live here, so there's time. There's time. Noise limits time, whatever. You know what I mean? So it's like, can you even do that at night? Sometimes I wish I just lower my voice a little bit more. Maybe I don't do some of the runs as much. Oh, I do another type of content. But that bothers me because I would love to have a structured thing, which is weird because I'm the creative, right? So I do enjoy flexibility as well, and I do enjoy that. I do kind of need that structure. So I'm just like, okay, maybe just just, you know, do it at night when you don't have the distractions at all. But that doesn't make a lot of sense because then you are really tired and it's like, that's that. So it's difficult figuring it out, per se. I think that when he starts school in a few days, it'll be easier, to have my days and really know what I'm doing. But right now, it seems like nighttime works best. Works best because the conditions are the way you prefer them to be, or because you truly can't work during the day. Because there's a difference. There is a difference. I agree, I think I haven't tried the other the other way where I tried the few times recently, especially thanks to the three weeks coaching thing we did. The few times I tried out, like, okay, you can, you can, you can get this to work. If I talk to him, I'm like, I need this time. I need this time myself. Most times he listens or I, you know, I can I can squeeze, especially if I start to focus on, okay, those ten minute things, what can I get get done in ten minutes? I can find another ten minutes within each hour to do something. But I and I also think that I might need to have my produce in places that I can see them so that when I look up, you know, at the moment when, okay, I'm in the kitchen, I literally see what I could be doing. Okay. So what can you do to some future to do in a, in a visual place? Yeah, let's put them up because I write them down. Really. Put them up. I have I have these to write it down right now as a thing to do. They are going to do, I guess, over the next, day or two, you're going to have your to do's where you can visually see them. I actually had someone else on the challenge as well say that that's what they do. Okay. You you listen to the language you say. I was like, I was going to ask you to share, but yeah, yeah. There two things that you mentioned I don't want to. Okay? I don't want to lose them. Okay. Number one, sort of see the difference between the conditions are perfect. So therefore I can do my work now versus yeah the conditions aren't perfect, but I can actually get stuff done even more than ten minutes because that perfect. You mentioned earlier that you see yourself as a perfectionist. That perfectionist mindset is killing us, is killing our progress because it's giving this all or nothing. If I cannot have the conditions, imagine if I said, for me to do my work, I need to be on my standing desk. I need to have my two screens, my, this, my that, therefore, you know, like. And then I must have my incense burning or my candle and my bottle beside me. If not for that, I cannot work. Do you know how many things that will not get done? Do you know how many things I've done inside the car? Like maybe just waiting for someone or I'm waiting in line. The line is just taking four of them. Like, you know what, I can just do this right now or I'm not by my desk and I have the inspiration. I'm like, I need to download this right now. Or sometimes I'm literally taking a walk. Like what? Let me sit down under this. Now. And because of that, I've actually gotten a lot more done. So I want to just I wanted to just so you to start taking note of the difference. When you start to see the difference, then you start to see more time. Just open up in your day because it's not so much that you don't have time. Even your son is not on. It's in our city. He's not right now, the next thing you mentioned, you're cooking, you're cleaning. Who else could you enroll to help you in this area? Nobody right now outsourcing it, you know, cleaning can't can't really outsource that one just yet. But by the grace of God, when I do get a job, I should be able to that should I'm open up. But what I'm thinking is I need to push certain things. What I'm doing is dishwasher girl throw things at the rest of her. Don't even feel bad about it. Just don't do that. Is you enrolling someone quote unquote, or something to do for you, right? Right. Well, what is the I don't understand what's the thing behind dishwasher? What's the. No, nothing. Nothing. Because you said something that like, there's no shame there. Like put that. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you need something immediately. So if you push it off, you know, sometimes you want to wait for the dishwasher to be full on before you do. It is like, you know, if I. Yeah. So crazy things like that. And then I also think I need some some of the cleaning. Ignore it. My mom always tells me this. Ignore it for the weekend or ignore it till, you know, have it scheduled. Your cleaning schedules. Because sometimes I tend to just clean everyday like certain things. I just once I start to season things, I just want to clean or sweep every day. But then I don't need to do that. Sometimes I do it automatically as a way to just get busy doing what I'm not supposed to be doing, basically. Yeah, that right there is a mistake that I used to make too. I would, you know, just to just feel good, you know, I would do other things, but I know that there's this big thing that I really need to do, and I'm not going to do that. But I can remodel my entire home. I can clean up my entire closet and do a deep clean, give bags of things away. But now, one thing I need to do when I get done. But then when I changed my mind about that, I was like, no, I need you to start making the main things, the main things. If you need to write that down on your fridge, alright, make the main things, the main things, literally those those clothes can wait to be folded until you have reached out to those who don't need to reach out to. This week. And if there are things that even bother you, you can't stack them and say, you know what? This thing really bothers me, but I'm going to reward myself with it. Let me first do this. Then when I do it, then I'll reward myself with this other thing that I really want to do. I. If you're obsessed with cleaning, okay, fine. Did you send that email? You sent it? If you haven't sent it, that cleaning come with you. Reward yourself with that cleaning. Right. And the professionalism I said just follow those everywhere. I heard you say just now that you're already thinking about the email you send to the person that you want to reach out to, like how you, how do you want to sound, dude, why why do you think that whatever email you put together that you think is perfect is actually going to come across as perfect to them? Okay. Make the main things, the main things, control your controllables you cannot control how that person sees you. All you can do is put out the best email and what sending it is better than getting the perfect one done is better than perfect. I have a question. Yes. If I don't get a response, am I supposed to follow up? Am I supposed to do the whole follow thing out? What do I do? You think? I think I can follow up a few times at least. Then if I still don't get for about the third time, then why you for time? I mean, I think third time's a term, right? It's like, I think that. Oh, no. I think that I think that's a I feel like that's a you want Oh that's good. That's a good question. Bad. I don't know, I mean, do, do you want it badly enough to just email person three time? How many emails repeated emails have you ignored before. Right. And I sure that's true. That's true. Okay. So how long are you going to email these people for? Did I get a response about whether yes or no? Yes. Right now we're talking. Until you get your response, you are going to knock on those doors until they open because do you know why? Because of what we talked about. And because you have the certainty and the conviction that if I keep knocking, this won't open the door for me. It's not that you would just be foolish and just be knocking on only one door, you know what I mean? Like all the people they have lined up, you don't just give up. Oh didn't respond. People are busy. You're busy to. You know, just because it's high priority for you doesn't mean it's going to be high priority for them. Well, then the person, the other person who is in your shoes, who continue to persist 17 more times past you, is the one that is going to get the door open, not you. And that is a difference. And that's how bad do you want it? When you start to feel yourself giving up just to ask, how bad do you want to go? Okay, so we've talked about executing this is literally enough for you in terms of execution. We cannot solve all the issues in one session. Do you have any other questions? I don't think so. I think I think you're right. This is this has been awesome to say the least. And, let's see, let's see. Yeah. Execute on to be honest. And I'm glad you feel that you are clear on the next 3 to 5 things to do right after this call. I am, I am there were good. We are so good. I am so happy. I think this was so much fun, I loved it. Tell me what you what did you love the most about this session today? Your energy. I think you have this, real ness about you you're not seeing. And you all you tend to know exactly what the issue is. You know what it is like here. Like, this is what is wrong. And this is and, you know, some of the things that we've heard before, but you're seeing it at the right time concerning the particular issues that we're dealing with. And you are listening, it is showing that you listen like you're actually listening. You're not just, you know, a lot of times, lot other people, they just want to give you a blanket advice. But it's not that. It's not that I think that it's more intentional. And, you really care. It shows that you really can really and truly and, this is probably stuff that's worked for you. So it's not bias, you know? And I enjoy being able to curse on the show. So that's also my favorite. So it is therapeutic. It is it is. I feel like it is not a fake. Oh careful. We do have to curse is not godly sake. I mean, it is therapeutic. And I love. The world I love it, I love it. I'm so glad that you got something out of this and I'm so honored. Thank you for letting me be this person for you today. And I hope we get to work together even more. And so how can people get to your music and all of that? It's all on fire everywhere streaming platforms or LA via. And yeah, that's. Yeah. I'm not I'm not I'm right now mostly TikTok and then that's me on the streaming platform. So and then it's, I think it's you allow you to on, on, on LinkedIn. So if anyone wants to reach out had any leads, you know, okay. So that's your first big step. You are you all are talking to the future founder and owner of what are we going to call it something Records of Nigeria. Right. Right now a name for it already? Absolutely not. I did register already, but, there's supposed to be different arms of it. I've. Yeah, because you know how Sony is Sony Pictures, Sony Music, Sony Electronics. So that would be the parent company obviously. And then there'd be the different arms that focus on music. I love it, I love it. Watch out everybody. Watch out for all our, AK all our fire. She's coming with our fire. I love it I love that. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks for tuning in to grow with Keppel. If this episode sparked something for you, subscribe, share it with a friend and keep growing.